Women's waltham 14k gold multicolored pocket watch

Jun 12, 2021. 20:58 UTC
Women's Waltham 14K Gold Multicolored Pocket Watch
Autumn
United States of America

Category
Pocket watch

Acquired from
Inherited

For sale
Maybe
Description

Brand: Waltham Diameter: 2.25 Material: 14K Gold Engraved Serial #: 237285 It's engraved with daisies and a star with a diamond in the center. It hangs on a long woven(?) gold chain, with an engraved slider that also has what look to be tiny pearls and a ruby. It's not in working condition but it's in okay shape.

Provenance

My aunt sent it to me with a bunch of old jewelry she was giving me to repurpose. I suspect she got these from my grandmother when she was alive.

Answered within 1 day
Jun 14, 14:14 UTC
By David

Fair Market Value

$700 - $800 USD

Suggested Asking Price

$600 USD
What does this mean?

Hello Autumn,
Thank you for sending in this family gold pocket watch to mearto.com for an appraisal. I shall try to help you with that today.
TITLE:
Ladies, 14k multi-color solid gold, pendant wound and pendant set, savonette hunting case pendant/pocket watch, Serial number unidentified (# on movement), case number 237285, made by the American Waltham watch company, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA circa 1890-1900.
PROVENANCE:
“My aunt sent it to me with a bunch of old jewelry she was giving me to repurpose. I suspect she got these from my grandmother when she was alive.”
DESCRIPTION:
CASE: Measuring 2.25” in diameter including the pendant and bow, and therefore the true diameter without the bow and pendant is estimated to be 1.33” or approximately 35mm in diameter and therefore in the range of size 0 to size 6, 14k solid multi-colored gold hunting case pendant/pocket watch. The watch is attached to a long solid gold woven necklace with a gold slider which appears to have four small pearls and a central round cut ruby. There us a fluted gold suppressed ball pendant and round gold bow placed at the three-position relative to the dial and placed opposite the case hinge (savonette). The covers are beautifully engraved with pink, green and yellow gold flowers and yellow gold foliate smaller designs around the barrel of the case. One side has a central polished section with a single inset diamond, the other cover having a shield for the owner’s initials (blank) replaces the diamond. The inside of one cover, the one with a diamond on the outside is marked with the case number 237285, 14K, L&C with a partial logo, most likely the retail jeweler who originally sold the watch. The remainder of the inside of this watch is not shown.
DIAL: Round white enameled dial with upright black Arabic hours, open bar minute track with red Arabic numerals placed every five minutes around the periphery of the dial, sunken subsidiary seconds dial @6, blued steel spade hands and the upper dial marked, “Waltham”.
MOVEMENT: Unfortunately, not shown but most likely a split three-quarter plate nickel damascened movement with 15-18 jewels, marked by Waltham with their name and location and the serial number of the watch.
CONDITION:
Case – In very good condition with a modest number of scratches.
Dial – Good condition with a hairline fracture running through the 37-minute marker and reaching the edge of the subsidiary seconds' dial. Otherwise in very good condition.
Movement - I will make the assumption that the movement is genuine, correct for this case and we know it is now non-functional.
HISTORY of the Waltham Watch Company:
This American company was the first to produce watches by the machined use of interchangeable parts. This was the vision of the founders of the company; Aaron Dennison, David Davis and Edward Howard. The initial company was located at Roxbury, Mass. in 1851, and was called the Warren Manufacturing Company. The business moved to Waltham, Ma in 1854 and the name had just been changed to the Boston Watch Company. That business failed in 1857 and was sold at a sheriff's sale, reorganized and called Appleton, Tracy and Company. In 1859 the Waltham Improvement Company merged with Appleton, Tracy to form the American Watch Company. Between 1859 and 1885 the firm operated under that corporate name. These early watches were key wound. Stem winding was introduced in 1870. The last key wound watches were produced in 1919. In 1885 the name was changed to the American Waltham Watch Company. In 1906 it became the Waltham Watch Company and in 1923 the Waltham Watch and Clock Company. Production ceased in 1950.
COMPARABLES:
~https://www.ebay.com/itm/254996455741?hash=item3b5ef9213d%3Ag%3A0bIAAOSwsIJgqBWZ&nma=true&si=Ok7CRMNiAo%252Bto7zEtGnaPj5kaxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (NO DIAMOND BUT OTHERWISE QUITE SIMILAR AND SOLD IN 2021 FOR $545 )
~https://www.ebay.com/itm/274817144885?hash=item3ffc60d835%3Ag%3AxR4AAOSwqqpgtPRT&nma=true&si=Ok7CRMNiAo%252Bto7zEtGnaPj5kaxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (SOLD FOR $350 RECENTLY)
~https://www.ebay.com/itm/224487596050?hash=item344480e012%3Ag%3AxXYAAOSww5JgvEFq&nma=true&si=Ok7CRMNiAo%252Bto7zEtGnaPj5kaxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (SOLD FOR $430)
PRICING:
Please understand that the watch and necklace have been priced for their fair market value as if sold on the watch market, and NOT into the gold market where both would be destroyed.
The pocket watch database prices your pocket watch in a range of $750-$800 and I would add another $250-$300 for the necklace to a range of $1000-$1100. However, we have to subtract the repair cost to get the watch into running condition and that is close to $250-$300, on average. That would leave us with the watch and necklace in the $700-$800 fair market range, in its current condition.
I hope you are able to understand all that I have written. I could have pinned everything down more precisely if I could see the movement and get the serial number from the movement, but I believe that I am quite close to the value of the pieces of antique jewelry at this point.
Hopefully, you can enjoy this beautiful family heirloom that you have inherited. It can still be worn just as your grandmother did and used for dressy occasions.
Thank you for choosing mearto .com for this appraisal.
If you have questions or comments, feel free to write to me.
My best,
David

Dear Autumn,
Thank you for contacting Mearto with your appraisal inquiry.
I would have completed your appraisal yesterday for you but I am unable to see any of your photos.
I wrote to our technology people yesterday to ask that they contact you, but instead they wrote to me as follows:
"The problem is that the customer has uploaded images from an iPhone. iPhone images have a specific format that is not displayed correctly on meatro.com, you can download the images if you will click on them (this does not work for me on my computer) or you can ask the customer to convert those images from Heic format into JPEG on a computer and try to upload one more time."
Since I cannot upload your images can you please try to upload your own images on your own computer and then send them once again to mearto.com?
Thanks for trying to send the photos once again.
I have not experienced this problem before.
My best,
David

Autumn bowes Jun 15, 22:53 UTC

Hi David, I'm so sorry for not seeing your previous message about the images. I did provide the serial number: both written and in the photos. #237285. I'll try to reattach all of those photos.

David Jun 16, 15:38 UTC

Autumn,
as I mentioned in my appraisal the serial number of a pocket watch is NOT engraved on the inside of the cover of a pocket watch but on the plates of the movement. You have to open up the movement compartment in order to take a photograph and get a serial number. #237285 is just called the case number and is not the serial number.
David

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