Hello George
I will try my best and upload one soon.
Best regards
Przemyslaw

Dear Przemyslaw,

Thank you very much for your help and have a great weekend!

With kind regards,
George

Hello
A tough thing. Unfortunately, a very difficult thing with this nice clean photos... I tried but it didn't work out too well. Very flustered..because you could say there is a lot of text, letters but not legible. Carracci's signature, but under a magnifying glass and with a very low resolution .. it is enough to slightly enlarge and blur.. We see there in the upper left corner date MDXlX and above progettato ../ designed- date of commencement of construction of the Farmese Palace ..? Then the word Lazio (canino lazio - the birthplace of Pope Paul III ..). Probably at this point it is written for whom this picture was painted. Strange, but there is a different Annibal signature here, but in a different style (I don't think he trained his signatures here :) unless there were deferential works before). Don't worry if you can't put a valve on it, if this is original Carracci, I know well how much it would be worth ..and free tv advertising before will go for sale as this big finds not coming often on the market. More interesting for me was your opinion on this and whether it has any potential for further research. Will add photos today and maybe tomorrow with signature you asked for.Best regards
Przemyslaw

I forgot add it best to check out this photos on mobile phone with magnifying glass:)
Thanks

Good morning.
I give up:) Ultimately, only a professional or expert in physical inspection could ultimately say what he thinks about this work…and this isn’t easy to arrange or nearly impossible.I am happy because it looks nice on my wall anyway.
Best regards
Przemyslaw

Hi
I said that I will not write any more :) but I also found many traces of inscriptions, traces of former stickers - unreadable for me because in a foreign language and I need better eyes. Even this piece of frame looks like a small picture. The numbers are there too.

Good morning ☀️. is it not sometimes similar to the mark of the Cardinal Ludovico Ludovisi collection( last 5 photos)

Good evening
This is 100% L. Ludovisi stamp with description above and below.
P.K

Dear Przemyslaw,

I hope you are well and healthy. I received all the information and start my research. I have to ask you for some patience. My sincere apologies for the delay and I ask for your understanding.

With kind regards,
George

Hi. Take as much time as you need.. this painting is happily hanging on my wall I think:)
If you’re remember my other painting , just checked the frame and discovered please where was label and with some computer help is visible sign El Greco in Greek… would check this later on …( photo)
Have a nice weekend
Przemyslaw

Good morning
Yesterday, after reading a few articles (searching for connections of Ludovisi family, Carracci..) on the website villaludovisi.org, I came across the words affiliation of Don Gaspar Mendez de Haroy Guzman, Spain's ambassador in Rome from 1677–1682, and Viceroy of Naples from 1683 until his death in 1687. Guzman has direct links to the Ludovisi family and had held several ex-Ludovisi paintings in his collection. There was also a family coat of arms. The paintings from their collection were monogrammed by DGH. Here we have a "new" canvas, so no inscriptions are visible, but between the Ludovisi gallery stamps there is a coat of arms similar to the Haro family coat of arms (wolves eating lamb) - small size on wood so not perfect(photos).I have no idea if Guzman's collection was marked that way too .. A few thoughts in the morning .. have a nice day.
Przemysław

Hello
In right corner I found mark with date 1595 another 'Dragon.." and 'Lion..?
(photos).. if visible..)
Best Regards

On the middle is small stamp with monogram JE and date 1851(or1751)

Good morning
One of the stamps on the middle looks more like "unicorn " with closer examination . The unicorn was part of coat of Arms Dukes of Parma.Lion too.The Duke of Parma and Piacenza, Ranuccio VI, and his brother, Cardinal Odoardo approached the Carracci in 1593 and asked them to come to Rome to decorate the Palazzo Farnese.This could explain the date on the frame 1595 as preparatory work for main painting.
Best regards
Przemyslaw

Dear Przemyslaw,

Thank you for your patience, detailed images, and your help. I am waiting for one last response from a colleague who is an expert for North Italian paintings and would write you the conclusions tomorrow. Thank you very much.

With kind regards,
George

Hello.
Just was looking at the photos and the painting and just wish to clearly see all the description on the front and the back ( there is so much more.. ) . Was really fancy give to professional restorer but may lose the antique look.. Shame can't compare to the painting in Italy and see the deferences myself. Think there is more marks but can't read them as don't know how the galleries or owners marked their property . On the back was two more oval plaques but are gone now . I did say the date on the stretcher is 1595 but is more like 1593..But on the painting next to ST.Catharine foot is date believe to be 1586( don't know if it is related to date when this painting was made ). May include few more photos . Thank you for the hard work.
Przemyslaw

Good morning
Next discovery is large four letters next to foot and where the date is- CARR ( 3 last photos)
Przemyslaw

Hello
I found the sign "La Girafe" (in French) with the head of a giraffe .. but I can't find anything about it on the internet who used this sign( owner/dealer/restorer-2 photos).
Przemyslaw

I don't know if its has anything to do with but want share with you - Looking recently at the description of the painting Annibale Carracci (Bologna c. 1560-1609 Rome) The Madonna and Child with Saint Lucy and the Young Saint John the Baptist (Christie "s auction house 2019) at Lot ESSAY - the date in description is something "similar" to a date on the painting stretcher but Ludovico mentioned ..-..the half-length Madonna and Child with figures by Ludovico recorded in Palazzo Sampieri in the 1760s or ’70s by Marcello Oretti (loc. cit.; Marciari, op. cit.). Ludovico’s Madonna is likewise listed in a 1795 inventory of Palazzo Sampieri and again in a guide by Giacomo Gatti in 1803, but has long been considered lost (loc. cit.).

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6198695

From the same description-Many of the Sampieri paintings were acquired by the French Viceroy, Eugène de Beauharnais, in 1811.
The stamp with date looking like is his monogram written in.. and crown on the left side...(3 photos)
this just my thoughts..:)

Good afternoon
Hope you had great weekend .
I'm sure now it is Eugène de Beauharnais coat of arms. Still puzzling me the * la girafe* mark .. any idea please?
Przemyslaw

Hello
Where there was one of the badges, there was an imprint of Sotheby's logo - but it is very faint so that I may be wrong(!)
Even if I am are wrong to follow this trail and browse the Sotheby's sale for Ludovico Carracci, there is one painting sold( LOT 185):Ludovico Carracci (1555-1619) THE MADONNA AND CHILD WITH SAINTS CATHERINE O.Estimate 100,000 - 150,000 USD
LOT SOLD. $ 115,750. 25 JANUARY 2001 | 10:15 AM EST
NEW YORK. But no info given .....

Hello
Today I looked at the photos that I sent you and I think that they are not legible and probably no one would express their opinion on the basis of them. If it makes sense I can try to send the attachment to some e-mail address. From this stretcher you can see the history of the painting from the 16th to the 19th century, but to say something specifically, it would be necessary to physically examine it. Do you think this is a potential object to take such action in the future?
Przemyslaw

Hello
Probably I could send something new every day for at least a year :)
Under the foot of Saint Catherine I found the inscription ANNIBAL (next to it where I once wrote that there is CARR and date). (two last photos Have a nice day
Przemyslaw

www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0nNdknq3pJ_T25YnsVRVmC-hw#Annibale

Dear Przemyslaw,

I send you tomorrow the estimation. My sincere apologies for the delay with the appraisal but this was a very tricky painting. Have a wonderful Sunday.

With kind regards,
George

Dear George
Yesterday I watched Fake or Fortune on TV :) and seeing how hard it is to convince officials to something that may have existed or was unknown so that they would accept it as potentially related to the artist is almost impossible ... and copy is no great value .. Do all these signs, traces, dates on the stretcher (canvas not relined ,original )etc. mean something as provenance is very impressive -previous owners top of the league:)? - and they were patrons of only the best ... so can this painting (signed) be related to the artist in any way? Certainly, this painting did not appear completely by accident in their collections (?). Maybe a qualitative finish is not in the master class or Million$$ category , but as a preparatory work or for a patron it is quite possible ...
Przemyslaw

Hello
I wrote few words to the museum in Italy to give me a clue of possible existence another work by the artist.. but they won’t or I can’t complete understand;)
From director PN in Bologna
Email:
Dear Mr.Kleszcz,

We thank you for sharing with us the information about the fortune in the field of roman collecting of this altarpiece made by Annibale Carracci in 1593 for the church of S.Giorgio in Poggiale and now preserved in the Pinacoteca.
However, being a public institution, we are sorry to inform you that we cannot release expertise or economic evaluations.
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best regards​

Dear Przemyslaw,

I hope you are well and healthy. Thank you very much for sharing this new information. I include this new information in the appraisal and get back to you soon as possible. Thank you very much for your patience and for uploading this interesting piece of art.

With kind regards,
George

Dear George
Thank you, everything is fine. No rush. All day long I was thinking what she meant :) Was it supposed to be a confirmation and congratulations on the rich collection of Italian works or nothing at all .. like in parliament..my mother was a politician so i know something about it :)) Have a nice weekend.
Przemyslaw

Hello
I believe that the stamp Sampieri Collection (dog) is also there (photo) and date 17 (85?).Pretty clear letters around if someone could read them.
Przemyslaw

The only thing that is a bit "deceptive, weird" is Saint Catherine's mouth (lips), it was reconstructed but not completely, not finished..with a shadow from the lips to the ear ..and now looks a bit like Homer Simpson :) -sorry :)

Hello
It seems to me that the seal in the corner looked like it was an English coat of arms, but above it there is an inscription and the first letter is identical to the character as the inscription of the name of the Russian museum in St. Petersburg -Hermitage.. So it is the coat of arms of Tsar Alexander I or his family( I think his daughter marry someone from the Beauharnais family .
Best regards
Przemyslaw

Hello George
Hope you Ok. here is Pinterest link:
https://pin.it/1xVKDWx
Have a great weekend.
Przemyslaw

Dear Przemyslaw,

I hope you are well and have an wonderful weekend and weather. I include the new information in the estimation and come back to you at Monday. I am terribly sorry for this long time research and delay with the appraisal.

With kind regards,
George

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Good Morning
One of the seals bears the word "Borsa", which may be associated with The Borsa di commercio di Milano (Milan Stock Exchange) was established by Eugène de Beauharnais, viceroy of the Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy. It is next to another de Beauharnais seal ..
Przemyslaw

Hope you're ok. Little update on the picture. Yesterday I finally got an appointment with auction house specialist Brandon Lindberg, who previously worked for Christies for almost 30 years. In his opinion, this image has a good chance - considering provenance, style, age, signature - all ok. He said the next step should be a technical examination(Scientific
Analysis)to confirm what is visible and the final thing is an inspection by a Carracci specialist/expert ... Still in the UK many places are closed and specialists are not available so it won't be easy .. the coronovirus is still strong.