approx 4" tall X 6" wide handcrafted Buddah
27 February 2020
Description

Might be Ivory - or some similar composite,. appears to be wearing a japanese Kimono - hand painted and or etched all over - Buddha is in sitting position maybe holding/smoking a pipe,? we have had this buddha for more than 18 years in loving care, but have never seen another like it.

Provenance

Unknown

Acquired from
Other
For sale
Maybe
Answered within 10 days
By s.k. Breider
Mar 09, 08:41 UTC
Fair Market Value
€30 - €40 EUR
Insurance Value $0 EUR
What does this mean?

Dear Schuyler,

This is a modern Buddha figure made in resin with is a type of plastic. Its not ivory or bone. It misses the Schreger lines and the black spots or Ivory and bone and the material looks to smooth to be of animal / natural origin IMO. These objects are made in last 20 years in great quantities in China to meet demand for ''Ivory'' type statues or artworks. You can check yourself by sticking a hot needle in a small spot and smell. You will most likely smell a chemical substance. If its a natural material you will small burnt hair or other not chemical smell. For no I stick with my opinion and my estimation is based on that.

Schuyler mcbride Mar 10, 18:56 UTC

Please let me know if this helps.

Schuyler mcbride Mar 10, 18:57 UTC

note this has not been polished or cleaned since we've had it

Schuyler mcbride Mar 15, 00:21 UTC

using your advise and hoping i haven't devalued our buddha, please pics i added - we tried the hot needle test and did not smell any plastic or chemical - which you can see (pic 1 added) by the white dots on the bottom, io also was unable to push the hot needle in, i was using pliers and a hot needle, if it were plastic/resin it should have left a black mark too i think. I do believe i smelled something faintly organic. Re your last comments regarding black marks - which this item has on his head in faint streaks - see pic 2 added. We purchased this over 20 years ago and it has always looked the same. I have not seen any other like it. There is a marking on the bottom which i do not if that is the artist. This is not a manufactured or made from a mold - if you zoom in you can see this has been hand painted with a lot of detail. It also appears he is wearing a Japanese kimono - I do not know of any japanese buddhist. I also requested an appraisal, i do appreciate your opinion and your estimate is not list in your comments. With all due respect, is it possible this is an item that is extremely rarer then you think or believe?
I am available to chat via phone - feel free to call me at 562-400-8676

S.k. breider Mar 17, 06:14 UTC

Dear Schuyler McBride,

Thanks for doing the test. If you cannot smell any chemical components it means I can rule out plastic. Usually these items are rude worked and you see popped bubbles on the material and saw stripes. I do not see that in your buddha. I thought the buddha was to big to be a nut like Tagua. I ruled that one out because I missed the dry cut marks. See this link:

https://www.etsy.com/nl/listing/772755325/een-leguaan-slapen-onder-een-blad-hand?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=tagua+nut+carving&ref=sc_gallery-1-4&plkey=1a97279c45dc24234311da77443e475f9dd58c42%3A772755325

What is the size of the object exactly ?

We will find out I will do my very best to give you a clear answer.

Regards,

Simon Breider

Schuyler mcbride Mar 17, 23:21 UTC

Hi Simon,

Please new images added - 1 shows the weight ( US weights & measures ) the other shows the exact width which just shy of 6 inches, the height is just under 4 inches. The reasearch my wife and were doing yesterday found , the closets thing we found that resembles this is a (KUTANI) or maybe (HOTI) We were trying to figure the signature on the bottom, and she says its chinese, i'm skeptical. while i was searching for a place to test with needle, i found that behind his right arm right at the belt line. someone had taken a sample, as there is a small hole.
I don't know - given the intricate art work surrounding it - i think there has to be something more there than meets the eye.
looking forward to your response,

Schuyler

S.k. breider Mar 31, 08:11 UTC

Dear Schuyler,

That rules out Tagua nut
Its simply to big for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_ivory

What I can tell you is; it comes from China and is made after 1980. The style is similar to what I know from late carvings from China, even in ivory. I still believe you have a statue made of some composite material. Its party done in a mould and partly done by hand. Its not organic material I believe. That brings a lower price normally; Organic cut statues of good quality have a fair [pricetage as statues made of composite material can made in huge quantities and that reflects on the price. I will not change my opinion about the value of the statue. I'm sorry to say to you.

Regards,

Simon Breider

Schuyler mcbride Mar 31, 12:08 UTC

Thank you for your time.

Schuyler McBride

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